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#1 Cronicus

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:04 AM

Haven't sceen a topic about this so what the hey.

The Idea is simple allow players to either give, trade and or sell mech's and equipment to other players directly in game.

This will help people trying to start clans and promote a social network plus there is an established black market in BattleTech so this will keep to the cannon source material for the game.

An established trading system would be sweet it's one of the things I wished more games had.

#2 Grugore

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:07 AM

View PostCronicus, on 19 July 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

Haven't sceen a topic about this so what the hey.

The Idea is simple allow players to either give, trade and or sell mech's and equipment to other players directly in game.

This will help people trying to start clans and promote a social network plus there is an established black market in BattleTech so this will keep to the cannon source material for the game.

An established trading system would be sweet it's one of the things I wished more games had.

How about a real money auction like Diablo 3?

#3 Nairdowell

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:10 AM

I'm thinking one of the Devs already said no to this, but can't lay my hands on the actual post atm....

#4 Hador

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:11 AM

I recall the same thing Nairdowell, no trade between players.

#5 Cronicus

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:12 AM

View PostGrugore, on 19 July 2012 - 09:07 AM, said:

How about a real money auction like Diablo 3?


Both a real money Auction and in game Currency auction system would be a good idea. I would expand the concept alittle though allow people to trade peaces of equipment for other items.

I would like something where you can litteraly give someone a mech if you wanted to.

No trade between players would be lame and it would detract from the MMO aspect of the game. I did do a search and didn't see any topics on trading.

Edited by Cronicus, 19 July 2012 - 09:14 AM.


#6 Stunner

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:19 AM

Some people believe if you allow trading then you open the game up to hackerswho would hack an account so they could sell in game items for real money.
If you don't allow it there is no real reason to hack accounts.

#7 BinaryDuck

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:19 AM

No! That would only encourage the theft of accounts and bots.
It's a totally stupid idea!

#8 Astarot

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:20 AM

No to trading, because of a few reason, first this isn't diablo, so you just don't find random loot on the ground, every thing you get you have to earn, unlock, then buy and maintain. if you allow trade you introduce the problem of power gaming where a lets say capped out player, gives a just starting player a over the top mech equiped with items that the person normally wouldn't even have access to buy. So you then have level 1 player mopping the floor with other level 1 players...

#9 Thorn Hallis

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:21 AM

View PostCronicus, on 19 July 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

No trade between players would be lame and it would detract from the MMO aspect of the game. I did do a search and didn't see any topics on trading.


The "MMO aspect" of the game is solely built around Community Warfare. No trading in MWO.

#10 WardenWolf

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:33 AM

View PostStunner, on 19 July 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

Some people believe if you allow trading then you open the game up to hackerswho would hack an account so they could sell in game items for real money.
If you don't allow it there is no real reason to hack accounts.



View PostPsicoPato, on 19 July 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

No! That would only encourage the theft of accounts and bots.

These guys are absolutely correct. Sorry - as it is a neat idea at the outset - but it is just too risky. Look at all the fraud around WoW and other games that allow this.

Now what I could see doing would be some (very limited) options to temporarily share a mech. This could, perhaps, be limited to Merc Companies: they could maintain a stable of mechs for use by new members, or if someone needs to pilot a class / size they don't have in their personal mech bay. However, even things like this have to be balanced with PGI's need to have a source of income (real money) so it can't go too far... and may not work at all.

#11 Jost

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:36 AM

View PostCronicus, on 19 July 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

Haven't sceen a topic about this so what the hey.

The Idea is simple allow players to either give, trade and or sell mech's and equipment to other players directly in game.


1) There's been at least a dozen threads on this.

2) In each one the strong majority of players who still have the strength to reply again say "NOOOOOO", for various good reasons.

3) The developers have said a couple of times that there will be no player-to-player transfers of any kind: not money, not xp, not mechs. Not for free, not for money, not for xp.

#12 Otto Cannon

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:51 AM

You can't possibly have trading in this game. Otherwise what would stop you from creating 50 accounts and giving all the starter mechs and cash to your main account?

Even if you couldn't cheat that way, being able to trade means there would always be people trying to hack your account to take your stuff like in every other game with trading.

#13 PANZERBUNNY

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:25 AM

No. please god no.

#14 Yodo

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:45 AM

There are nothing to trade with in this game. Maybe it would be nice to have ability to use some kind of "clan-money" to buy ammo or mech repair, so clan members can help each others a bit. But mech trading is a big no-no. You shouldn't forget about the basic of all RPG games - character development, you need to achieve something, some kind of progression. It is not like there is a lot of items to find or endless field of customization, trading will cut the fun from new players. Actually it did for D3.

But it will be nice to have some cosmetic features available for trading, like cool looking diffusers, paints, aerodynamic elements - to bring unique style for your mech, some individuality. Team fortress is a great example, Dota 2 is the same. It is purely cosmetic and it is fun to play with. We need hats.

Edited by Yodo, 19 July 2012 - 10:54 AM.


#15 Brenden

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:53 AM

That would be cool though, imagine trading a combat-variant Raven for an electronic Cicada. That would be nice.

#16 H4CKM4N

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:58 AM

Just to be the devils advocate:

YES!

#17 StarfyrGuns

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:05 AM

The ONLY thing I could see, is giving/loaning credits to a fellow unit/clan member. But that would be it!

#18 Insane Death

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:10 AM

This is a free to play game if they tryed to put tradeing in it would eat there profits and open it to a bunch of other problems they are going to put in gifting from the online store but thats about it

#19 JFlash49

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:13 AM

NO to trading. this isnt pokemon!! lots of things can go wrong trust me. its better if you just work your way around and get your own stuff the hard way

#20 Petrothian Tong

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:15 AM

No, as mentioned above, it would create problems by giving incentive for hacking people's accounts and selling off their stuff.

and not to mention that if the person hacked have premium mechs, it would become a problem piranha can't ignore, and have to devote resources to combat it

(and lets face it, organized crime profit from this (look up Final fantasy mmos for examples) while the company hemorrhages money)

I don't think they want to devote a huge amount of customer support just for this (fixing this problem in case ppl are hacked... and no before you go: "it is people's fault they have weak passwords/blah blah", if piranha is paid at any point, it becomes piranha's problem).

And, unlike the games you mentioned, there is no loot drop in this game. everything you need can be brought from npc.

While I can see the desire to give the 14 yr old teenage girl™ a free mech.
is just not worth the hassle that comes with it.
it add very little, and opens up a huge nightmare of piranha.

Edited by Petrothian Tong, 19 July 2012 - 11:21 AM.






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